And that's just how I feel and that's how I live.

So I don't let things hinder that or get in the way.

Like I don't get discouraged anymore.

In my mind, the first thing I will say is if it's written for me, it's for me.

If it's not, and that's okay.

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It's always fun when you get to interview somebody who's been your friend for quite a while and just bringing us together in a different context. Dina Abdul, Amunet Studios, and and and so much more. I'm so excited that you're here.

You're so sweet. Thank you so much for having me. It is a lot more fun when it is, you know,

in a different phase in our life than we've been for so long. So.

And me too. And to go back to that phase, you were in Dallas, you were coming down to Houston for

conscious couture event.

I was a, quote, socially conscious fashionista.

Yes, back in, you know, many years ago, I was a fashionista known as one in Houston.

And that's where we originally connected because you, in one of your lives and maybe you're

bringing it back in the future handbag designer, Egyptian American, amazing backstory,

everything you're doing.

I just, I love the fact that we're still so connected and that we're,

even in the stays of our lives, are finding new ways to connect. Yeah. So we connected. I was living in

Egypt because Luther was playing for the Rockets at that time. Oh my God. That's what that's,

yeah, I was there. And then I moved to Dallas way later. Then I moved to L.A. And I absolutely called you.

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