So after law school, where do you go?

I took the job that paid me the most amount of money.

There was a, yeah, I did.

It's a marketplace, right?

It's a marketplace, man.

At the time, first year associates coming out to elite firms, we're making a buck 85 a year.

Now they make $2 265, if you can

believe it. It's a really big deal. And here's the thing, sometimes you need to communicate

and or connect with people whose interests are counter to yours. Completely. Yes, or with people

who are hostile to you.

Right.

Other times, other times it's with your team or it's with your spouse or it's with your

next door neighbor whose construction is driving you mad.

Right.

So more in a repair capacity.

And my mom, the only job she could get, given her experience and her total lack of linguistic

skills was to sell carpet at a carpet store. And so my parents were a salesman and a repair

guy, basically. And they hit some hard times and they were having a hard time finding work.

Fashion house. And so it was a lot of fashion work. It was a lot of spirits

work. And because it was fashion work and spirits work, even though I was a litigator,

it also involved a lot of trademark related questions. And so I was also involved in a lot of

transactional issues as well, particularly as it related to taking a look at the mark

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