From Conversion Therapy to a Rainbow Yarmulke

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Audio

Careers, Sexuality, Business, Health & Fitness, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.6 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2016

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Chaim Levin and Benjy Unger desperately fought their attraction to other men by signing up for gay conversion therapy. They rejected the therapy together, but saved their friendship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	At that point I considered it a journey to get to an end goal and I have these people to support me and I can support them.
0:07.0	The end goal of not being gay anymore.
0:09.0	Yes, I'm not being gay.
0:10.0	This is death, sex and money.
0:16.0	He's meditating.
0:17.0	No, he's not.
0:18.0	He's dead, man.
0:19.0	The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.
0:22.0	I can't believe what a bunch of nerds we are.
0:24.0	We're looking up money laundering in a dictionary.
0:26.0	And need to talk about more.
0:28.0	You don't know the first thing about love.
0:30.0	I mean a sale.
0:32.0	Bingei Unger and Chaim Levin I'm Anna Sale.
0:36.0	Benji Unger and Chaim Levin are really good friends. Almost like platonic dating.
0:38.0	They grew up just a few miles apart in Brooklyn,
0:41.0	but they didn't meet until about nine years ago, when Benji was 20 and Khaim was 18.
0:46.3	I tell people that we met in a closet and he hates it.
0:49.2	He literally every...
0:51.0	He hates it.
0:52.0	He yells at me, he's like, stop it and why do you do that? But I think it's really funny because we met in a place where the goal of being there was to stay in darkness. They were both raised in big Jewish
1:06.4	families that followed strict Orthodox rules. They went to religious schools,
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