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Rich Dad Radio Show: In-Your-Face Advice on Investing, Personal Finance, & Starting a Business

From $0 to 30+ Properties – The One Strategy That Changed Everything!

Rich Dad Radio Show: In-Your-Face Advice on Investing, Personal Finance, & Starting a Business

The Rich Dad Company

Entrepreneurship, Business, Investing

4.13.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

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Ever feel like real estate investing is only for the rich? Think again! In this episode of the Rich Dad Real Estate Show, host Jaren Sustar sits down with Grace Gudenkauf, a real estate investor who went from DIY landlord to running a scalable, hands-off real estate business—all while moving across the country!

Grace shares how she started out painting houses, doing renovations herself, and hustling hard—only to realize that scaling required a new approach.

She breaks down:
-The mindset shift that changed everything
-How to buy properties with little to no money left in the deal (BRRRR strategy explained!)
-The mistakes that held her back—and how moving forced her to systematize
-Why most investors think they have to do everything—but the secret is outsourcing & delegation

If you’re struggling to scale your real estate business or wondering how to invest in real estate while working full-time, this episode is for you!

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:29 Grace's Real Estate Journey Begins
03:37 The Power of Normalizing Real Estate Investing
06:12 Transitioning from DIY to Outsourcing
08:39 Scaling and Out-of-State Investing
18:50 Finding and Negotiating Deals
20:28 Referral Leads and Word of Mouth
21:30 Turning Your Audience into Billboards
23:05 Funding Your Real Estate Ventures
26:36 Managing Real Estate Projects Remotely
35:02 Empowering Women in Real Estate
36:44 Conclusion and Resources

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Rich Dad Real Estate Show where we talk about the good news and bad news.

0:03.3

Real estate hosted by yours truly, Jaron Sustar.

0:06.5

And today I'm here with a very special guest, Grace Gudenkopf.

0:09.9

I hope I pronounced that correctly.

0:11.5

We'll find out here in a second.

0:12.6

Grace, she's a real estate investor.

0:14.6

She's an author of the self-managing landlord.

0:18.1

And she's a co-founder of the women invest in real estate network, I guess.

0:24.0

Why are they crush it?

0:25.7

Her and Amelia, her partner, they're great people, and they're absolutely crushing it with

0:29.9

that community, and she's a systems expert.

0:32.5

And so I'm super excited to talk to Grace.

0:34.1

And her free time, she likes hiking and hanging out in a hammock. Dude, I haven't hung out in a hammock in forever. I'm scared to get in a hammock because I don't

0:41.7

diet well enough and I'm not sure there's a hammock that can hold me, Grace. Thanks for being on

0:45.6

this show today. Thank you. And yes, you pronounced it right. And I know that there is a hammock out there for you. My hammock is my best friend.

0:58.5

Hey, if we can go on a hammock search for extra large males,

1:01.5

that would be fantastic because I'm going to need one.

1:03.8

But I'm super stoked to chat with you today.

1:08.0

We met, I guess it was Orlando at a conference a couple years back,

1:09.8

and we hit it off.

1:13.2

You guys are awesome. The vibe between me,

1:18.3

yourself, your partner in your business, you are just amazing people. And I know you're crushing it in your community. And so this is really cool that a couple years later,

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