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FRIENDSHIP LOST: 1/4 A Dog's World: Imagining the Lives of Dogs in a World without Humans, by Jessica Pierce and Marc Bekoff

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🗓️ 27 November 2023

⏱️ 8 minutes

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FRIENDSHIP LOST: 1/4 A Dog's World: Imagining the Lives of Dogs in a World without Humans, by Jessica Pierce and Marc Bekoff

https://www.amazon.com/Dogs-World-Imagining-without-Humans/dp/0691196184

What would happen to dogs if humans simply disappeared? Would dogs be able to survive on their own without us? A Dog’s World imagines a posthuman future for dogs, revealing how dogs would survive―and possibly even thrive―and explaining how this new and revolutionary perspective can guide how we interact with dogs now.

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0:00.0

This is a

0:03.7

a CBS eye on the world. I'm John Bachelor with Jessica Pierce and Mark

0:08.8

backoff. A dog's world is their new presentation of imagine, this is a thought experiment,

0:14.8

imagining the lives of dogs and world without humans. So we've gone through the home

0:19.3

dogs, the free-ranging dogs, and the feral dogs. We are made the transition. We're now in a world

0:25.3

where there's no memory, first generation, second generation, third generation of

0:30.1

human beings, homo sapiens. The dogs are in packed behavior. Then they've found a

0:37.2

style that suits them in the niche where they live, desert to forests, to high latitudes, and we're dealing with some truths that we can

0:49.6

imagine for the future.

0:52.1

And Jessica, one of the things that I was most impressed by is that

0:56.5

there is no future dog. There is a universal dog. We've talked about its

1:01.6

characteristics, but I'm keen on its psychology on what it

1:07.2

would imagine the world to be. Does it see itself as a as a as top of the food chain these dogs hunting and packs because

1:16.9

my observation is that wolves are in their environment certainly dominant?

1:23.7

Will dogs in the future see themselves as dominant,

1:26.9

Jessica?

1:29.1

That's a good question.

1:30.1

I'm not sure. I think it could go either way. I think my intuitive answer to your

1:38.6

question is dogs are just going to see themselves as a sort of fluid part of their ecosystem, that they don't have this sense of the sort of meta place in the world the way we might imagine them to be.

1:56.2

They will just be who they are

1:59.1

and do what they need to do to get by. Mark, I come to you with the wild animal in dogs.

2:07.0

It returns, but presumption in your book is that it doesn't return to the wolf.

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