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This Is Uncomfortable

Friendship is a full-time job, with Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow

This Is Uncomfortable

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Business, News

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2020

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman are very good friends. And as hosts of the podcast “Call Your Girlfriend,” and co-authors of “Big Friendship,” they’re also in business together. This week they sit down with Reema to talk about how work has changed their friendship and what they learned from couples therapy. Later, they join “The Group Chat” to answer listener questions about friendship and money.


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0:00.0

I am Amina Tussaud. I am a co-host of the podcast called Your Girlfriend and a call author of the book Big Friendship.

0:07.2

I'm Anne Friedman and both of those titles apply to me as well. I'm the other half.

0:12.8

How long have you all been friends for now? It's been over a decade, right?

0:17.4

Yeah, 11 years. Definitely.

0:20.7

I was doing the math in my head Anne.

0:24.2

Yeah, we've been friends since 2009 and now we're on to 11 and staring down the barrel of 12.

0:34.6

Anne Friedman and Amina Tussaud have a pretty serious bond. So much so that they wrote a book about it

0:40.7

called Big Friendship. They wanted to honor the complexity and importance of platonic friendships,

0:47.0

those relationships that really society doesn't give as much thought to.

0:51.5

Another way they honor their relationship with a friend ofversory. They celebrate it every year in May.

0:57.6

We send a gift. That always makes me laugh a lot because it's just really fun to shop for something

1:05.2

that is not a holiday that is sanctioned, I guess, my society. But I think there is something also

1:13.7

just about seeing a friend ofversory in the calendar for me, at least that it feels very grounding.

1:21.8

You know, like, oh, okay, the passage of time is real, but also this relationship is a

1:26.7

relationship that is worth remembering every year. That's nice.

1:33.7

What is the most creative or weirdest gift you all have given each other?

1:38.1

It's just things based on little inside jokes we have or like little little things that we

1:44.0

talk about with each other. Like I have never sent like a singing balloon gram or like something

1:48.9

that feels ridiculous like that. Please do not send me a singing balloon gram. I know you would

1:54.2

hate that. I know you would truly and deeply hate that. And they're bond. It feels especially

1:59.6

intertwined because with the book and their podcast, they've got a business, which means unlike some

2:04.9

other friendships, they're really comfortable talking about money. I want to focus on your

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