Hey, good afternoon, everybody, wherever you are in the world.

Hope you having a fantastic weekend.

I'm here with Sasha Wall.

Huge thanks to her for coming on, sharing her life story.

A huge part of it is the Essex Boys case.

There's been fascination, endless fascination, theories around what happened to the three

men who were assassinated in the vehicle. And Sasha came on and, you know, in summary,

did not rule out the possibility that it was the cops a network of cops freemason cops

that may have ended their lives so we had billy jasper on about a month ago and a lot of what sasha

said parallels with what billy jasper said and his podcast they tried

to close it down they tried to shut him up he's been in prison he's done almost 40 years throughout

his life but you know he's got a right to reply about the things that have been said to him on

this story and they still tried to shut it down. It was a real shame. But Sasha's here now and she's got a lot to say. So, huge thank you for coming on. Thank you, Sean. Thanks for having me. And thanks for inviting me. And I really enjoyed off conversation. It was good to start talking again, really. Yeah. I mean,

there's murders every single day all over the news. You know, things are getting more and more

violent all over the world. Why do you think there's so much fascination still in the Essex boys'

case? Because it happened so long ago. I think there's a lot of reasons.

Obviously, when so many books, so many films have been made about this particular event,

then of course it is actually creating not just a kind of local audience or a UK audience.

It's creating a worldwide audience.

It was sensational.

I think it was, I personally think it was purposely sensationalised as a deterrent to other people that thought they could get cocky with the police

and the network that are involved with them.

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