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Freedom to Learn: Natalya Murakhver on the Truth About School Closures, Its Harm to Students, & Union Responsibility

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News, Politics

4.4651 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Natalya Murakhver, the creator of the documentary 15 Days: The Real Story of America’s Pandemic School Closures, joins the podcast to discuss the prolonged school closures that harmed a generation of American students. 15 Days highlights the stories of children and parents directly impacted by COVID-era policies and covers the role of teachers’ unions in […]

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Freedom to Learn podcast. I'm your host, Ginny Gentles. This season, we're diving into what it means to return education to states, communities, and families.

0:12.0

And we're exploring what becomes possible when education is freed from union dominance and federal control.

0:21.0

As an immigrant, I came here when I was six from the Soviet Union from, you know,

0:26.3

from Odessa, Ukraine. And if schools had shut down when I came here and when I was acquiring

0:33.0

the language when my parents were struggling, my father was a plumber and was working in incinerators and was

0:38.9

out of the house all day. My mother is a bookkeeper commuting to Manhattan and that's what we needed.

0:44.5

That was our livelihood and it was just me. Like in our tiny apartment, if I had been shut in that

0:49.5

apartment for months and months and months and not been able to go to first grade.

0:56.7

I don't think I'd be here speaking to you right now.

1:01.4

Natalia Moroccova joins me on today's episode to talk about her new documentary, 15 days,

1:03.7

The Real Story of America's Pandemic School Closures,

1:09.1

and the importance of preserving the true narrative of America's disastrous COVID-era policy decisions.

1:11.9

Natalia and I talk about teachers' unions' outsized role in shaping the policy and narrative, Daren and after the closures. We cover the disruptive

1:16.6

policy's significant impacts on children's academic outcomes, engagement with school, future

1:21.2

opportunities, mental health, and social development. And Natalia explains why we must prevent this

1:26.2

harmful chapter in our nation's history from being

1:28.5

rewritten. Natalia's personal experiences as a Soviet immigrant and mother fueled her commitment

1:33.7

to advocating for children's education. She was a leader in the open schools movement,

1:38.0

the founder of urgency of normal. And as she explains during our conversation, she convened

1:42.1

esteemed medical experts from across the country to create and communicate a toolkit to give it school districts to reopen schools.

1:49.5

15 days has been released on X.

1:51.5

Please check it out and consider scheduling a screening in your community.

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