Hello, hello, hello, ladies and gents and welcome to this week's episode of the

Baw and beloved podcast. As always, it's me, your girl Kirby Kelly, and I have a

really incredible guest with me today. I'm just gonna we're just gonna jump into it.

His name is Ike Miller, I keep wanting to say Mike Iller, it's Ike Miller, and his book is called Good Baggage, how your

difficult childhood prepared you for healthy relationships. I read this book and

literally like you know how Paul wrote letters to the church and it was like this is to this church but we all read it that's how I felt about this book.

I'm like this was written for me to me but everybody else can read it like that's literally what it felt like spoke to my soul spoke exactly to the

inner wounded child in me who grew up with a dysfunctional family who was now

navigating life as an adult and cultivating healthier, biblical, better relationships.

And this is the book I wish I had growing up

and especially as a young adult.

So now it's available to all of you and we have the

amazing pleasure of having Ike Miller himself joining us here on the

podcast Ike how are you doing? I'm good I'm excited to be here Kirby

thanks so much for having me on and excited to dive in this conversation with you.

Absolutely.

We're just gonna hop on in, but real quick actually for those of my audience who's watching and listening

who don't know you can you just fill us in a little bit about who you are what you

do and what you're passionate about? Yeah so my wife Sharon and I lead Bright City Church here in Durham, North Carolina.

We planted about five years ago, and so not something we ever intended to do or had any hopes of

doing. It's one of the things that God calls you to and you're like,

are you sure? Like, maybe there's something else, you know, and you kind of

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