Can I just say?

You're about to listen to a BBC podcast.

It's such a wonderful listen.

So nice.

There are loads more like it on BBC sounds.

Different paces, different heights.

The roof is buckling.

Where you can also listen to live sports commentary.

It's right foot goes for goal.

And then enjoy even more podcasts full of analysis and reaction to the big stories.

The stat that is astonishing is they ended with the lowest amount of possession.

And she's had to live with that.

So if you love sport, a passion, it's almost like a religion.

Listen on BBC sounds.

Sort of expecting that every week now.

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slash radio three. Jonathan, thanks very much indeed. On tonight's programme, Vim Vendors,

director of Wings of Desire, that tender film about angels. He locked himself away in a cabin in the Mojave Desert

with an Australian philosopher

to think about how we can invent peace,

both within ourselves and more generally.

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