Joining me today is a trial lawyer focusing on civil, criminal and constitutional law, and

according to his Twitter bio, he's America's most successful political gambler.

Robert Barnes, welcome to the Ruben report.

Happy to be here.

I am glad to have you here because you sir are smack dab in the middle of a million things

that I'm thinking about all the time.

So I'm glad we're doing this before we do anything related to civil, criminal, and

constitutional or any other kind of law, political gambler.

What are we talking about there?

I know what we're talking about, but tell the people.

Sure, I started doing it when I was really young.

So I used to bet friends and other people with elections and then started doing it, became

sort of legal, loosely in 2004.

So I started betting on presidential elections and it was sort of a side hobby until the

Trump election.

And Trump, I thought this was a very money making opportunity.

The British betting markets are now much bigger than they ever used to be.

So I could bet as much money as I possibly could and basically dug in much deeper than

I had before.

So I'd sort of been around politics but hadn't dug in deep for maybe 20 years or so.

I mean, I'd been very active, but then it'd become inactive.

It'd become skeptical of the political process and decided, well, I should really dig

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