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History Unplugged Podcast

Frederick Douglass’s Private Writings on Abraham Lincoln, His Strong Critiques and Stronger Praise

History Unplugged Podcast

History Unplugged

Society & Culture, History

4.23.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Frederick Douglass made the strongest arguments for abolition in antebellum America because he made the case that abolition was not a mutation of the Founding Father’s vision of America, but a fulfillment of their promises of liberty for all. He had a lot riding on this personally – Douglas was born into slavery in Maryland around 1818, escaped to the North in 1838, and became a renowned public speaker in Europe and the United States, captivating audiences with his powerful oratory and firsthand accounts of enslavement. Initially, in the 1840s, Douglass denounced the United States as a hypocritical nation that failed to uphold its ideals of liberty due to its support of slavery. He was part of the same radical abolitionist faction as William Lloyd Garrison, who publicly burned a copy of the U.S. Constitution in 1854 a Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society event, calling it “a covenant with death” and “an agreement with hell” due to its protections for slavery.

But by the 1850s, Douglas’s views evolved to see the Constitution as an antislavery document that could be leveraged to fulfill the promise of freedom for all. His transformation reflected a strategic shift, advocating for reform within the system while maintaining his fierce commitment to abolishing slavery and securing equal rights. He was also a critic of Abraham Lincoln who later became friends with the president. Douglass disagreed with Abraham Lincoln's initial hesitancy to prioritize abolition and his gradual approach to emancipation, but agreed with Lincoln's eventual commitment to the Emancipation Proclamation and the use of Black soldiers in the Civil War, seeing these as critical steps toward ending slavery and aligning with the Constitution's promise of liberty.

In “Measuring the Man: The Writings of Frederick Douglass on Abraham Lincoln,” Jonathan W. White, today’s guest, assembled Frederick Douglass’s most meaningful and poignant statements about Abraham Lincoln, including a dozen newly discovered documents that have not been seen for 160 years. We see the anger Douglass directed at Lincoln throughout much of the Civil War as he moved slowly, but methodically, toward emancipation. Douglass’s writings also reveal how three personal interactions between these two led to powerful feelings of friendship and mutual admiration. After Lincoln’s assassination—as Jim Crow laws spread across the South—Douglass expressed greater appreciation for Lincoln’s statesmanship during the Civil War and praised him as a model for postwar America.

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0:00.0

This guy here with another episode of the History on Plug podcast.

0:07.9

Frederick Douglass made the strongest arguments for abolition in Antibelma America

0:11.6

because he made the case abolition wasn't a mutation of the founding father's vision of America,

0:16.9

but a fulfillment of their promises of liberty for all.

0:20.1

He had a lot writing on this personally.

0:22.0

Douglas was born into slavery in Maryland around 1818, and he never knew what his birthday was.

0:27.8

He escaped to the north in 1838 and became a renowned public speaker in Europe and the United States

0:32.5

by captivating audiences with his oratory and firsthand accounts of enslavement.

0:37.2

Initially, in the 1840s,

0:38.8

Douglas denounce the United States is a hypocritical nation that failed to uphold its ideals of liberty

0:43.4

due to its support of slavery, and he was part of the same radical abolitionist faction as William Lloyd Garrison,

0:49.3

who publicly burned a copy of the U.S. Constitution in 1854 at an anti-slavery event, calling it a covenant

0:55.4

with death and an agreement with hell due to its protections for slavery. But by the 1850s,

1:00.3

Douglas' views evolved to see the Constitution is an anti-slavery document that could be leveraged

1:04.8

to fulfill the promises of freedom for all. His transformation reflected a strategic shift,

1:09.7

advocating for reform within the system, while

1:12.2

maintaining his fierce commitment to abolishing slavery and securing equal rights.

1:16.2

He was also an initial critic of Abraham Lincoln, but later became friends with the president.

1:20.6

He disagreed with Lincoln's initial hesitancy to prioritize abolition and his gradual approach to

1:25.0

emancipation, but agreed with Lincoln's eventual commitment

1:28.2

to the Emancipation Proclamation and the use of Black soldiers in the Civil War.

1:32.1

Today's guest is Jonathan White, author of Measuring the Man, the writings of Frederick Douglass on

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