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There's a famous episode when Douglas comes to the White House after Lincoln's second inaugural and he's denied admission.

And Lincoln hears about this and immediately orders the guards to let Douglas in.

And there's a long line of visitors waiting to shake his hand and he sees Douglas come in and he says, hey Douglas, there's Douglas, my friend Douglas.

There's no man whose opinion I value more and I'm more eager to hear Douglas come here and Douglas says, well Mr. President, you had all these people in line.

I don't want to jump the line. I'm not another president. I know there's no man whose opinion I'm more eager to hear than you.

And then Douglas, timing again later, says that Lincoln treated him with the utmost respect.

He didn't always agree with him, but he could sense that he was a racially gallotarian, that he hated slavery deeply and profoundly.

History is in just a bunch of names and dates and facts. It's the collection of all the stories throughout human history that explained how and why we got here.

Welcome to the History Unplugged Podcast where we look at the forgotten, neglected, strange and even counterfactual stories that made our world what it is.

I'm your host, Scott Rank.

In a little known eulogy given shortly after Abraham Lincoln's assassination, Frederick Douglass called the martyred president, emphatically the black man's president.

And the first to show any respect for the rights as men to justify this description. Douglass pointed not just to Lincoln's official acts and utterances like the emancipation proclamation or the second inaugural address, but also to the president's own personal experiences with black people.

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