Hey there, I'm Steven Dubner and this is a bonus episode of Freakonomics Radio Live.

It's the nonfiction game show we call Tell Me Something I Don't Know.

This was recently recorded in New York.

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Good evening, I'm Steven Dubner and this is Freakonomics Radio Live, tonight where it

Jo's pub in New York City and joining me as co-host is Manouche Zomorodi.

Manouche is the hosting creator of the podcast Zigzag and Note to Self.

He's the author of the book Board and Brilliant.

How spacing out can unlock your most productive and creative self.

Manouche, we know you grew up in Princeton, New Jersey, the child of not one but two psychiatrists.

Indeed.

We know that-

Everybody just went like this.

Well afterwards they'll come to you with their problems, presumably.

We know that before getting into the cutting edge world of podcasting that you reported

for legacy media companies including Thompson Reuters and the BBC.

To tell us something we don't yet know about you Manouche.

My big break was I was a breaking news producer for the BBC and I was sent to with a correspondent

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