Fraud, AI slop and huge profits: is science publishing broken?
Science Weekly
The Guardian
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🗓️ 2 October 2025
⏱️ 18 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is The Guardian. |
| 0:09.0 | Scientific publishing might sound niche, but it's the backbone of the scientific method. |
| 0:17.3 | Papers, sent into journals, are where scientists share their most groundbreaking, exciting and |
| 0:24.3 | world-changing discoveries. Where does your next cancer cure come from? Where does your gene therapy |
| 0:30.6 | come from? How do you know how to deal with the next pandemic? Publishing papers is how |
| 0:35.6 | science gets done. But researchers are increasingly speaking out about a system that's |
| 0:41.3 | putting them under huge strain. Many argue it's reaching a crisis point. This is something I wish the |
| 0:48.1 | public knew more about. If there's anything you take away from this, dear listener, it is that |
| 0:52.8 | the scientific publishing system and |
| 0:55.3 | the academic job market are a bit broken. |
| 0:59.6 | And that has consequences, not just for the scientists, but for all of us. |
| 1:06.0 | At a moment when governments and influencers with massive platforms are using shoddy, spurious studies to bolster scientific misinformation, high-quality, reliable science is more important than ever. |
| 1:23.1 | So today we're asking, what's going on with scientific publishing? |
| 1:29.0 | And can it be fixed? |
| 1:32.0 | From The Guardian, I'm Madeleine Finley, and this is Science Weekly. |
| 1:41.5 | Ian Sampel, thanks as ever for joining me. |
| 1:44.4 | Now, as the science editor, you are very familiar with how science publishing works. |
| 1:49.2 | So give me the basics. |
| 1:51.1 | Well, for most scientists, publishing your results after you've done your experiment or your investigation is the final part of that project. |
| 2:02.6 | It's like, I've got the funding, I've done the work, I've written up all the results, here you go, and that is for all the other scientists out there |
| 2:08.0 | to read, you include exactly how you've done things, exactly what your results are, how you've |
| 2:12.9 | interpreted them. And this is essentially how the progress of science is recorded and built upon. |
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