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Frank Rose on Internet Narratives

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4.74.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2021

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Once it was The Shadow radio show; now it's the podcast Serial. Is every old storytelling medium new again? Frank Rose, author of The Sea We Swim In, concedes that some things remain sacred--from the power of a great hook to the hope that great stories never end. But he also thinks the Internet has led to new kinds of stories, ones that are not just entertaining, but immersive, and whose worlds are more richly imaginative than ever--even as they leave increasingly little to our imagination.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, Conversations for the Curious, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.

0:07.8

I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Shalem College in Jerusalem and Stanford University's Hoover

0:12.7

Institution.

0:13.7

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0:18.6

the information related to today's conversation.

0:21.4

You'll also find our archives, but every episode we've done going back to 2006.

0:26.8

Our email address is mail at econtalk.org.

0:30.3

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0:37.7

Today is November 23rd, 2021, and my guest is author Frank Rose.

0:42.5

He's faculty director of Columbia University's Executive Education Seminar Strategic Storytelling

0:48.0

and heads the Digital Dozen Awards program at Columbia's Digital Storytelling Lab.

0:52.9

This is Frank's second appearance on the program he was here in October of 2011, long time

0:58.2

ago, discussing his book, The Art of Immersion.

1:01.2

Our topic for today is his new book, The Sea We Swimming.

1:05.0

Frank, welcome back to econtalk.

1:07.2

Thank you, Russ.

1:08.2

Great to be here.

1:09.4

What is the sea we swim in and why is that the title of your book?

1:13.3

Well, the sea we swim in in this case is stories.

1:17.4

The title was inspired by a quote from Jerome Bruner, the psychologist.

1:25.5

He was one of the most influential people in his field in the 20th century.

1:32.7

He was a leader of the vault against behaviorism in the 1950s.

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