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The Good Fight

Francisco Toro on Guatemala’s Political Revolution

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and Francisco Toro discuss the surprise election of Bernardo Arévalo and the broader state of Latin American politics. Francisco Toro is a Venezuelan journalist and the founder of Caracas Chronicles. He is also a contributing editor at Persuasion and the author of the Substack newsletter The Two Worlds of Climate. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Francisco Toro discuss the chances Guatemala's reformist president will set the country on a better path; whether El Salvador’s “millennial dictator” Nayib Bukele is a regional outlier or a sign of things to come; and why former Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro’s coup attempt failed. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:11.4

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0:31.0

What it seems they really hadn't anticipated is that by trying to sidelight him that way

0:37.3

This was a greatest campaign ad that Bernardo de Valle could have hoped for it.

0:43.0

Now anybody in Guatemala who wasn't quite sure about him, who hadn't heard about him,

0:46.5

now they knew all they needed to know about him.

0:48.5

This was a no-B.S. anti-corruption crusader and if the people in power were this scared of him he must be the real deal.

0:58.0

So in the second round, just six weeks after the first, this guy who had been at 0.7% of the vote

1:03.8

ended up with 61% of the national vote and 80% of the vote in Guatemala City

1:08.9

which is the dominant city of this country.

1:12.1

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

1:17.0

I'm Ann Bauer.

1:21.0

I'm Ann Bauer.

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