France’s invisible Asians
The Europeans | European news, politics and culture
Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer
4.8 • 162 Ratings
🗓️ 18 November 2020
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
France has one of the biggest Asian communities in Europe. So why aren't there more Asians on the French screen? This week we talk to Grace Ly, writer and co-host of the hit podcast Kiffe Ta Race, about food, stereotypes, identity, and why it's so hard to talk about racism in France. Also this week: Europe's anti-terrorism balancing act, a round-up of LGBTQ good news, and celeb dad hangouts.
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| 0:00.0 | We've got to that stage of lockdown too where I've got literally nothing interesting to tell you, Dominic. |
| 0:28.8 | Went for a walk yesterday. |
| 0:30.4 | Took the bins out. |
| 0:31.7 | It's about it. |
| 0:32.3 | Sounds pretty similar to my life. |
| 0:34.7 | The highlight of my days is often like building up the energy to go and do |
| 0:39.1 | the paper recycling. Paper recycling. Good. Yeah. Highlight of everyone's week. Thank God we've got |
| 0:44.1 | the podcast to keep us entertained, eh? Yeah, I don't know what I'd be doing without it, to be honest right now. |
| 0:48.7 | What are we actually talking about this week? We have a really interesting interview coming up. |
| 0:53.5 | We are going to be speaking to Grasse Lee, who's a French writer and podcaster and one half of the podcast, Keith Taras, a very popular podcast in France about race. We'll be speaking to Grace about the surprisingly thorny topic of talking about race in France. |
| 1:14.7 | Lots of people don't like admitting that racism exists in France apparently. |
| 1:19.8 | Plus, we'll be discussing the under-representation of Asian people in popular culture and looking at how food can be an important force in one's identity. |
| 1:24.8 | A lot to discuss. |
| 1:26.3 | That's coming up later in the show, but first. |
| 1:31.3 | Who's had a bad week, Katie? I'm not quite sure it qualifies as bad week. I'm going to brand it. |
| 1:42.2 | Could have been handled better week. |
| 1:44.8 | Am I allowed to do that? |
| 1:45.8 | Yes, although that also sounds like bad week to me. |
| 1:49.3 | More or less. I wanted to talk about this new anti-terrorism statement that we adopted as a |
| 1:54.9 | continent last week. All of Europe's interior ministers signed up for it. |
| 1:59.0 | It goes without saying that it's been a terrible |
| 2:00.9 | few weeks in Europe. We've seen a horrific resurgence of jihadist attacks in France with |
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