He always relishes and then opportunity for his ego to be checked.

Jesuit community joke that when you're sitting in a community before dinner, there's this great

line that Jesuits are common for saying, especially Father Sundrup he says you know enough about

me let's talk about my new book.

That's good.

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Hey guys.

And Zach is in China right now.

So to keep this as simple as possible,

we found a different Zach.

Maybe it's more confusing, I'm not sure.

But we've got Zach with an H

But the H is silent. Just a reminder to our listeners.

H is silent and my name is Zachariah.

Oh, well there we go.

I'm very biblical.

And he's also a Jesuit.

Yeah.

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