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Foreign Policy Live

FP’s New Print Issue: Billionaire Rule

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🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Several of the world’s wealthiest men stood behind Donald Trump as he was inaugurated for a second term, contradicting his image as a populist president. This prompts the question, how much influence do the wealthy have on U.S. politics? Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy joins FP Live to share his take on the state of U.S. democracy, and whether the United States is becoming more corrupt, to mark the launch of Foreign Policy’s latest print issue: “Billionaire Rule.” Suggested reading (FP links are paywall-free):  Spring 2025 Print Issue: Billionaire Rule Jodi Vittori: Is America a Kleptocracy? Adam Tooze: Elon Musk’s First Principles James Crabtree: How Modi and Trump Treat Billionaires Differently Priya Satia: The Deep Roots of Oligarchy James Palmer: Did China Get Billionaires Right? Andrew O’Donohue: The U.S. Judicial Crisis Is Uniquely Dangerous Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, Foreign Policy's Editor-in-Chief.

0:05.8

This is FP Live.

0:10.1

So we dropped our new print issue this week.

0:13.4

It is called billionaire rule, and it explores a simple question.

0:19.1

Data increasingly shows that America is becoming more corrupt.

0:23.3

But what exactly does that mean? Is it becoming an oligarchy? A kleptocracy? And can we make

0:31.8

sense of America's trajectory by looking at how other countries treat their billionaires?

0:37.2

Let's say China or India.

0:39.5

There are five terrific essays in the magazine, and we've linked to each of them in the show

0:44.4

notes with gift links. The reasons we focused on this topic are obvious. The world's richest

0:51.0

man, Elon Musk, is now also the most powerful, unelected official in the world

0:56.7

as he slashes the American bureaucracy with relatively few checks and balances.

1:02.2

And yes, Musk is in a category of his own these days, but billionaires in general are empowered

1:08.7

by a particularly transactional era in the United States, with Donald

1:13.7

Trump offering tax cuts and deregulation as reasons for the ultra-rich to back him. All of this

1:20.9

raises lots of questions. What should the average American do? What should the country's

1:27.1

beleaguered opposition do? And I say all of this

1:30.8

with the caveat that most Americans blame both parties for corruption and inequality that have been on the

1:37.1

rise for decades now. Well, my guess this week is among a handful of Democrats who's been thinking a lot about inequality

1:45.6

and corruption.

1:47.0

He talks about it on social media every day and believes the Democratic Party needs a degree

1:52.4

of economic populism to appeal to a majority of Americans.

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