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Foreign Policy Live

FP at Davos: Defending the Cyber Frontlines

Foreign Policy Live

Foreign Policy

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🗓️ 25 January 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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FP Live host Ravi Agrawal kicked off a lively discussion on the new frontiers of cybersecurity at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. He was joined by panelists Samir Saran, president of the Observer Research Foundation; Matthew Prince, co-founder and CEO of Cloudflare; Andrius Kubilius, European commissioner for defense and space; Joe Kaeser, chairman of Siemens Energy’s supervisory board; and Mirjana Spoljaric Egger, president of the International Committee of the Red Cross. Suggested reading (FP links are paywall-free): Minxin Pei: China’s Secret to Controlling the Internet Rishi Iyengar: North Korea Does More Cyberspying Than You Think Dmytro Kuleba: The Fight For Ukraine Is Forging a New World Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:35.4

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0:59.0

Hi, I'm Ravi Agrual, Foreign Policies Editor-in-Chief. This is FP Live.

1:08.5

So I just got back from the World Economic Forum's annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland.

1:14.4

I want to bring you a session that I moderated there. It's about how the world can get better

1:20.0

at defending against cyber attacks, how to build rules of the road for something that feels

1:25.4

so new and scary, where it's hard to even know who

1:28.7

the aggressor is. And the guests we convened included a great mix of tech CEOs, international law

1:36.0

experts, and policy makers. But before I bring you that session, I thought I'd share some

1:42.1

quick reflections first on what has been a very busy week

1:46.3

of news. So I've been attending this summit on and off now for nearly 15 years. Davos is important

1:52.7

because of its network effect. World leaders, CEOs and celebrities all go there because other world

1:59.3

leaders, CEOs and celebrities go there. And because

2:02.8

it's at the start of the year, it can really set the tone. Now, usually when this summit takes

2:09.2

place, it kind of dominates a certain kind of news cycle on TV news and international press.

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