FOUR YEARS LATER, WILL THEY SPEAK ABOUT COVID? 3/8: Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century by Josh Rogin (Author)
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 13 November 2023
⏱️ 11 minutes
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https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Under-Heaven-Twenty-First-Century/dp/0358393248
By the time the COVID-19 pandemic erupted in Wuhan, Trump’s love-hate relationship with Xi had sparked a trade war, while Xi’s aggression had pushed the world to the brink of a new Cold War. But their quarrel had also forced a long-overdue reckoning within the United States over China’s audacious foreign-influence operations, horrific human rights abuses, and creeping digital despotism. Ironically, this awakening was one of the biggest foreign-policy victories of Trump’s fractious term in office.
Filled with shocking revelations drawn from Josh Rogin’s unparalleled access to top U.S. officials from the White House and deep within the country’s foreign policy machine, Chaos Under Heaven reveals an administration at war with itself during perhaps our most urgent hour.
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| 0:42.0 | continuing with Josh Rogin, the author of the new book, Chaos |
| 0:45.9 | Under Heaven, Trump, She, and the Battle for the 21st Century. |
| 0:50.8 | 2017 sets the scale of the operation for the Trump administration. |
| 0:56.3 | We have competing factions within large personalities. |
| 1:00.9 | 2017 ends with Donald Trump traveling to Asia, the AIPEC meeting, acknowledging |
| 1:06.5 | that she is president for life of the People's Republic of China, and also mixing in the fact that Wall Street has ambitions to continue to invest and |
| 1:15.8 | profit in China. |
| 1:17.3 | It's a giant market. |
| 1:18.3 | However, now we have to introduce and something I learned about for the first time in Josh's book, |
| 1:26.0 | the bingo club. Josh, what is the bingo club? |
| 1:29.6 | The bingo club was a group of government officials, congressional staffers, experts, and even a couple journalists |
| 1:36.1 | who meant secretly in Washington beginning in 2017 and 2018 to discuss Chinese |
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