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Mormon Stories Podcast

Four (or Five) Types of Mormons? - Are LDS Church Members Secularizing? | Ep. 2074

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 23 October 2025

ā±ļø 192 minutes

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Summary

Join John Dehlin, Julie Hanks, Jana Spangler, and Beau Oyler (the Mormon Bridgebuilders) as we review a new analysis of LDS Church members by Alex Bass.


Links:

- Alex Bass's study

- Benjamin Park's Analysis

- SL Tribune Article

- Robert Kirby's 5 Types of Mormons


00:00:00 Introduction

00:06:15 Maddie Packer clip

00:11:29 Julie’s response to this clip

00:16:44 How social media plays into the problem - only sound bits are shared

00:23:52 Introducing Alex Bass

00:26:05 Alex’s ā€œMormon Typology Reportā€

00:28:23 How Alex conducted this survey

00:29:49 The Four Types of Mormons

00:32:27 First type: ā€œdevout believers"

00:33:47 Second typer: ā€œThe adaptive believersā€

00:43:32 Is Mormon Orthodoxy in decline?

00:52:33 Third Type: ā€œThe Inbetweenersā€

00:55:42 Fourth Type: ā€œCultural Mormonsā€

01:12:24 Graph of how the groups are changing over time

01:15:27 Saying goodbye and thank you to Alex

01:16:15 Ben Park’s summary of this study

01:19:14 Applications to BYU are declining

01:30:33 LDS is the highest republican group

01:37:17 Half of mormons now support same-sex marriage

01:54:35 Mayci Nealey (SLOMW) clip

01:54:42 Welcoming Patrick Mason to the panel

02:17:00 Jana on the "Hallmarks of developmental psychologyā€

02:28:43 How Mormon Stories has tried to encourage people to stay in the church

02:3214 The three types of Mormons who are still attending church

02:39:30 How wards have different ā€œpersonalitiesā€

02:58:21 Closing thoughts


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon stories podcast. I'm your host for today,

0:05.7

John DeLinn. It's October 21st, 2025. And today we're answering the question, are there four or five

0:15.2

types of Mormonisms or of Mormons or more? So this is just for those who have been following us recently,

0:24.1

we have a crew that we've been assembling regularly.

0:27.9

This crew consists of the Dr. Julie Hanks.

0:31.7

Hey, Julie.

0:32.3

Hello.

0:33.1

Welcome.

0:33.9

Thank you.

0:34.5

And the Bishop Boehler.

0:36.3

Hey, Bo.

0:36.9

Hey, hey, got to be back. And the

0:38.7

Jan Spangler, Jan Spang, not to be confused with Janice. Janoree. Janice. My good friend,

0:45.9

Janoree. Jay Span, what is it? Jay Spang? We call each other recent Spang.

0:51.4

Recent Spang. All right. So we've got Spang here with us as well. And we are, we are not the Avengers. We're not the X-Men. We're the Mormon bridge builders. Is that cheesy? I love it. I think it's great. Yeah? I think it's great. It's like superhero, it gives superhero vibes. For sure. That's okay, though? Yeah, I think it's a great thing. Okay. Yeah, we're like... What's that? Matching T-shirts like to wear. Yeah, we should. We're tired of... I was thinking this today. On the one hand, we're all tired of polarization. And then I thought, who's the author of polarization in Mormonism?

1:28.6

It's me.

1:29.8

So like on the one hand, I've been like, I'm telling me.

1:33.8

I was thinking Satan.

1:35.0

No.

1:35.9

I guess John DeLand.

1:36.7

There's a lot of audio.

1:38.0

There's a lot of member or people like making that connection right now.

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