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🗓️ 25 December 2023
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0:00.0 | This week on Forward. |
0:04.0 | Happy holidays. |
0:05.0 | Coming up, we have our editor and audience picks for the best of 2023, |
0:09.0 | the future of AI, cancel culture, the 2024 elections, all this and more coming up on the best of |
0:18.0 | happy 2023 and see you in 2024 everybody. It is my pleasure to welcome to the podcast the author of the new book What's Our Problem. |
0:37.1 | You know him as Wait But Why. |
0:40.1 | Tim Urban, welcome Tim. |
0:42.1 | Thank you very much. So in your book, welcome Tim. Thank you very much. |
0:43.0 | So in your book, you talk about there being something of a ladder of thinking, which I enjoyed a great deal. |
0:50.0 | And I can let you dig into the four levels. The highest level is scientists. What entertained me was that the next level was I believe sports fan and then the level below that was attorney, which you're like, wait, like sports fans are smarter than attorneys? |
1:06.0 | I'm getting a lot of trouble for this. I've gotten some very angry attorneys. |
1:10.0 | I'm not talking about actual scientists, sports fans, attorneys, I'm talking about each of these is |
1:16.3 | representing a certain way of thinking, a certain goal. |
1:21.2 | And so when I talk about scientists, first of all, so the premise of here is that |
1:26.2 | this is a vertical ladder, vertical axis. We talk so much about left right center in politics, right? |
1:31.7 | And like when I you know we talk about when I hear |
1:34.5 | forward party I don't see center as much it is center of horizontally but what I see |
1:39.3 | is actually something that is we're trying to introduce the third dimension |
1:42.2 | like we there are actually people in Ford who are like no no |
1:45.5 | avoid the centrist thing though it does work out like that a lot because but |
1:50.2 | the fact is there are people who are part of Ford who are libertarians or people are forward who are like considered essentially like far lefties. |
1:57.0 | Yeah. Well and the point is if all you have is one axis and you're trying to say hey, you know, we're so polarized. We need more people on the center. |
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