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Forum From the Archives: ‘Second Life’ Looks at Parenting in an App-Obsessed World

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News Commentary, News, Politics

4.2727 Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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When New York Times critic Amanda Hess was told her baby had a rare genetic condition, her first instinct was to “Google [her] way out of it.” But instead of comfort, she found anxiety – a feeling that would come to define her journey into parenthood. We talk to Hess about how technology, including fertility apps and high-end gadgets, are reshaping parenthood. Her new book is “Second Life: Having a Child in the Digital Age.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. Amanda Hess remembers when her relatively positive relationship with technology changed. It was when she was pregnant and having a routine ultrasound that detected a potential abnormality. I reached for a sense of control and grip tightly to my phone, she says. It would not give me the answers I was looking

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for, but it would feed me wrong answers from its endless supply. It would serve me facts and conspiracies,

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gadgets and idols, judgments and tips. Amanda Hess writes about navigating technology through

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pregnancy and early parenting in her new memoir, Second Life. Listeners, what digital

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tools did you turn to for advice during the stage? Did they help? Stress you out? Both?

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Hess, a critic at the New York Times, who writes about the internet and pop culture joins me now. Welcome

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to forum, Amanda. Thank you so much for having me. Glad to have you. Gosh, your book brought back

2:01.4

so many memories because I had my last one in 2018. So I want you to take us back to that

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ultrasound in the summer of 2020 when you were 29 weeks pregnant. What happened? Well, I thought

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that I had gone in for a pretty routine ultrasound,

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