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From KQED.

Thank you.

Thank you. From KQED Public Radio in San Francisco, this is Forum.

I'm Alexis Madrigal.

In this special holiday edition of Forum, we've gone back into our archives to two interviews that Michael Krasny, our recently retired host,

did in 2011.

They showcase his depth and love of literature as he speaks with the winners of that year's

National Book Critics Circle Award, Jennifer Egan and Isabel Wilkerson.

These are two of the best books of the decade, and I'm a huge fan of both writers.

Egan's novel A visit from the

Goon Squad, traips us through San Francisco and beyond. Wilkerson's, the warmth of other

sons, the epic story of America's great migration, reframed the origins of modern America.

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