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Welcome to the HBR IDA Cast from Harvard Business Review. I'm Kurt Nickish leading a publicly

facing company has its own set of challenges, heightened scrutiny, a fast pace of change,

and many stakeholders to keep happy. That's particularly true for the news media, especially

at a time like this. Newsroom leaders across the US and the world are trying to adapt

while they remain true to their mission to tell the facts, to write that first draft of

history. Today's guest was the executive editor over much of the last decade at a major

news organization with Global Reach. It's a decade that included an unprecedented US

presidency, new attacks on the news media, a pandemic, as well as a reckoning around

race and inequality in the United States. Marty Baron joined the Washington Post in 2013,

which was soon after bought by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. Prior to that, Baron had been

the executive editor at the Boston Globe, whereas team won a Pulitzer Prize for its reporting

on the Catholic Church Sex Abuse scandal, coverage which inspired the movie Spotlight. Baron

stepped down from his role at the post earlier this year, and he shares a number of leadership

lessons he gained throughout his career. Here is Marty Baron in conversation with HBR Editor

and Chief Audio Ignatius.

So, Marty, thank you very much for being with us. Thanks for having me.

So the past four or five years seem to be as intense as any that I can remember as

a producer and consumer of news media. Did you feel that way from your position at the

post? No question. I mean, I think that our news organization was under tremendous

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