Former Ukrainian Foreign Minister on the Tensions Between Washington and Kyiv

Fareed Zakaria GPS

CNN

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4.3 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Today on the show, Fareed speaks with former Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba about the response in Kyiv as the US has decided to pause military aid and intelligence following last week’s Oval Office showdown between Presidents Trump and Zelensky, and whether Europe will be able to fill the void. Next, senior writer for the New York Times Katrin Bennhold joins the show to discuss the likely next chancellor of Germany’s striking remarks that he wants to strengthen Europe’s defenses and achieve independence from the United States. Will the rest of Europe follow? Finally, Fareed talks with Dartmouth economics professor Douglas Irwin about how President Trump’s proposed tariffs stack up against history. GUESTS: Dmytro Kuleba (@DmytroKuleba), Katrin Bennhold (@kbennhold), Douglas Irwin (@D_A_Irwin) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:31.6	This is GPS, the global public square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.
0:37.9	I'm Farid Zakaria, coming to you live. Today on the program, on the heels of that Oval Office
0:46.5	showdown between President Trump and Zelensky, the White House this week paused critical
0:51.7	military aid and intelligence sharing to Ukraine.
0:57.1	Can Keeve fight on without it?
1:00.4	I will talk to Ukraine's former Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dmitro Kuleba.
1:07.4	Also, how to make Europe great again.
1:17.6	Germany's likely next leader says he wants to make the continent independent from the United States. How is he planning to do that? We will explore.
1:21.6	Plus, Trump loves tariffs. That much is clear.
1:26.6	Tariff, tariffs, tariffs.
1:29.1	It's a beautiful word, isn't it?
1:31.4	But have they ever really benefited America?
1:34.8	We will bring you a history lesson.
1:38.8	But first, here's my take.
1:41.5	Singapore plays its geopolitical cards carefully. as a country that tries to maintain good relations
1:47.0	with America in a region dominated by China.
1:51.0	So it's worth paying attention when its defense minister says that the image of the United States
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