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The Owen Jones Podcast

Former Pentagon Insider: Iran Was NOT A Threat

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Government, News, News & Politics, Politics

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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0:00.0

Now, my guest today certainly knows what he's talking about. He actually served in the US

0:03.8

administration. In fact, he worked for Defence Intelligence Agency's Middle East and Africa

0:08.8

regional centre and was a US Army major. He resigned in protest at the US administration's

0:15.9

complicity in Israel's genocide against the Palestinian people. Now, we've all got lots of questions.

0:22.7

I've got burning questions that I'm going to ask Harrison, ma'am, who I'm talking to,

0:26.4

who I should say now is the associate director for campaigns that win without war.

0:30.3

They are progressive foreign policy advocates, who I think needed more than ever,

0:36.7

given the, I'll say, shit show, which is enveloping the world,

0:40.9

were descending quite rapidly into the abyss, I would say, at this particular point,

0:45.2

a very disturbing moment.

0:47.1

But what the hell is the administration thinking?

0:49.9

What's the strategy?

0:52.0

You know, why didn't they soften up public opinion? You know, taking a look back

0:58.1

at the shadow of the Iraq, the Afghan-Libyan-Libyan wars, just the general situation in the Middle

1:03.4

East, who's the destabilizing powers in the Middle East? How does this all end? So many questions,

1:09.6

Harris, no pressure Harrison, but I'm going to put some of these questions to you. Great to speak to you. How are you doing? I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. How are you? Very well. Now, look, let's just start. I really know, why the hell didn't they soften up public opinion? Because if we look at, I remember the, I'm a geriatrician millennial.

1:28.6

I remember the run up to the Iraq war. And it went on and on, you know, the full-blown works.

1:34.2

You're calling Powell, Secretary's Day at the UN doing this pack of lies presentation, which he

1:40.8

later, you know, regretted having helped facilitate one of the great crimes

1:44.5

of that particular period.

1:47.1

And, you know, and it was just relentless bombardment in Britain, the Tony Blair.

1:51.6

We have the intelligence, you know, 45 minutes, so we're going to get bombed by Iraq.

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