Former OpenAI Engineer William Saunders on Silence, Safety, and the Right to Warn

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🗓️ 7 June 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Whistleblower William Saunders quit over systemic issues at OpenAI. Now he’s put his name to an open letter that proposes 4 principles to protect the right of industry insiders to warn the public about AI risks. On Your Undivided Attention this week, Tristan and Aza sit down with Saunders to discuss.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone this is Tristan and this is Aisa. You might have heard some of the
0:08.8	big news in AI this week that 11 current and former open AI employees published an open letter called
0:16.2	A Right to Warn.
0:18.2	And it outlines four principles that are meant to protect the ability of employees to warn about under-addressed risks before they happen.
0:27.0	And Tristan, I sort of want to turn it over to you because they're talking about the risks that happen that are underdressed in a race to take shortcuts.
0:36.0	Yeah, so just to link this to things we've talked about all the time in this podcast.
0:40.0	If you show me the incentive, I will show you the outcome.
0:43.0	And in AI, the incentive is to win the race to AGI,
0:46.3	to get to artificial general intelligence first,
0:48.9	which means the race to market dominance,
0:51.6	getting as many users onto your AI model, getting as many people
0:55.0	using chat geepte, doing a deal with Apple, so the next iPhone comes with your AI model, opening
1:00.9	up your APIs so that you're giving every AI developer exactly what they want,
1:05.2	have as many plugins as they want, do the trillion dollar training run, and show your investors
1:10.3	that you have the new exciting AI model.
1:12.4	Once you do all that and you're going at this super fast clip,
1:15.0	your incentives are to keep releasing, to keep racing, and those incentives mean to keep taking shortcuts.
1:22.0	Given the fact that there is no current regulation in mean to keep taking shortcuts.
1:22.7	Given the fact that there is no current regulation
1:25.0	in the US for AI systems, we're left with,
1:27.8	well, who sees the early warning signs?
1:29.8	It's the people inside the companies.
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