Former Merrill Strategist Chuck Clough – This Time is Different | #571

The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing

The Idea Farm

Business, Investing, Management

4.7 • 938 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Today’s guest is Chuck Clough, Chief Investment Officer of Clough Capital. Chuck is well known from his time as the Chief Global Investment Strategist at Merrill Lynch until 2000 and has spent over six decades in finance. In today’s episode, Chuck shares insights from his illustrious career, reflecting on the challenges of the 1970s and the market crash of 1987. Chuck explains what it was like to be bearish during the dot-com bubble and watch Cisco go up 6x after he turned bearish, only to then decline by 95%. He compares the current stock market to the dot-com bubble, talks about the impact of AI on various sectors, and finishes with lessons from working alongside legends like Bob Farrell & Richard Bernstein. (0:00) Starts (0:34) Sponsor: Farmland LP (1:40) Introduction of Chuck Clough (5:14) 1970s inflation (11:57) Comparing the 1999 dot-com bubble to today (14:08) Predictions for AI companies (24:13) Clough Capital and views on China (28:09) Interest rates, inflation, and demographics (33:09) Savings, investment, and the productivity impact of AI (38:30) Investment opportunities in various industries (47:11) Contrarian views (50:50) Financial market surprises (56:37) Chuck's most memorable investment ----- For detailed show notes, click here ----- Farmland LP is one of the largest investment funds in the US focused on converting chemical-based conventional farmland to organic, sustainably-managed farmland using a value-add commercial real estate strategy in the agriculture sector. Register here for their webinar on March 12. ----- Follow Meb on X, LinkedIn and YouTube To learn more about our funds and follow us, subscribe to our mailing list or visit us at cambriainvestments.com Follow The Idea Farm: X | LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok ----- Interested in sponsoring the show? Email us at [email protected] ----- Past guests include Ed Thorp, Richard Thaler, Jeremy Grantham, Joel Greenblatt, Campbell Harvey, Ivy Zelman, Kathryn Kaminski, Jason Calacanis, Whitney Baker, Aswath Damodaran, Howard Marks, Tom Barton, and many more. ----- Meb's invested in some awesome startups that have passed along discounts to our listeners. Check them out here! ----- Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). The Clough ETFs are distributed by Paralel Distributors, LLC. Paralel Distributors, LLC and Clough Capital Partners L.P. are not affiliated. Please read Clough Capital’s disclosures and a prospectus at cloughetfs.com/disclosures before investing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:04.3	Welcome back, everybody.
1:06.3	We got a legend joining us today.
1:08.8	Our guest is Chuck Klau, Chief Investment Officer at Cloud Capital.
1:12.6	He's been in finance for a number of decades.
1:15.6	He's well known from his time as chief global investment strategists at Merrill Lynch.
1:21.6	After that, he started his own firm.
1:23.6	Cloud Capital has been running it ever since.
1:25.6	Today we're going to talk about his illustrious career,
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