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Intelligence Matters

Former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Border, Cyber, Terror Threats

Intelligence Matters

CBS News

Politics, News, Government

4.7 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2019

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with former Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, who ran the U.S. government’s third-largest department from 2013 to 2017 during the Obama administration. Johnson offers context on the security challenges at the U.S. southern border, addresses the government’s multi-agency handling of cyber threats, and evaluates the Obama administration’s response to Russia’s efforts to disrupt the 2016 presidential election. Johnson also reviews his career history as a top official at the Department of Defense.

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0:11.6

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0:21.4

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0:27.9

This is the Intelligence Matters Podcast with former acting director of the CIA, Michael

0:32.8

Morel, sponsored by Raytheon.

0:37.3

I believed that once we were convinced the Russian government at the personal direction of

0:43.7

Vladimir Putin was behind the hacking of the DNC that we had to tell the American people

0:49.4

before the election.

0:50.7

But we were rightly so extremely reluctant to inject the national security intelligence

0:57.6

apparatus of the US government into an election.

1:03.0

There's so much emotion, politics, and misinformation about immigration and about our southern

1:09.7

border.

1:10.7

I think it's domestic politics.

1:11.9

I think there is some fear mongering going on.

1:16.4

So Jay, what do you think we need to do about the cyber threat as a nation?

1:20.6

Well, you cannot have a 100% full-proof defense.

1:24.6

It's a little like trying to stop rain and preventing rain drops from hitting the pavement.

1:28.2

So raising awareness, continued investments in technology, and a better partnership

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