Will they fool up a chicken man and really less property tax on the original 1132. It's kind of

like Casey on 93 WIBC. We're going to have a rhino moment, huh? Oh, yeah, there he is. Yes,

that is absolutely correct. You know, so Robert Vane, he is the former communications director

for Greg Baller. And you don't think about, I love about you, Vane, is you're totally honest,

you're 100% entrenched in the establishment. You would love. You said an entire hour

once a month called the rhino hour and people could just, the conservatives just say mean

things to you. Oh, he's fat. I can't believe it hasn't happened already. I was told, I was told

Garrison would be here. There's Greg. Okay, so let, let's just piece you out in Indystar was

fascinating because you were Baller's communication director. And I was, I was comms director at state

party basically when he won. Yeah. And then I was this press secretary for the transition and then

I eventually worked in the administration for a couple of years. So you were there. You saw

what he did successfully in terms of winning what a lot of people thought at one point was,

especially after kind of Peterson had cruised to re-election 2003 and unwinnable race and unwinnable

city. And you wrote a piece in Indystar that I thought was very interesting about what Shrieve,

Jefferson Shrieve, the Republican nominee now could learn from Greg Baller. And for those people

who haven't had a chance to read the column yet, what's the number one thing Jefferson Shrieve

should be learning from Greg Baller? Visit people where they're comfortable,

ask them what their biggest worries are. And then be honest about what it takes to address them.

You know, Baller's almost a metaphor, right? Right. Well, Greg Baller did it. There's one

thing that I didn't write in my column that maybe I'll write in a future one. And that is,

you know, not only do Republicans remember what happened in 2007, but so do the Democrats.

And they're not going to forget it, just like we aren't. And you know, what Baller did,

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