Hey, ladies, Sam here with a special announcement.

Today, you're going to hear a very special conversation in the Vibe Check podcast feed.

It's a chat that I had with two friends of mine, Elise Hugh and Dory Schafeer.

They host a podcast called Forever 35.

And they had me on their show last summer, actually, to talk about a lot of stuff.

This chat is so good, though.

We're going to share it with y'all here this week.

We talk a lot about, we can call it self-care, just taking care of yourself, how I'm using all kinds of strategies to work on my phone etiquette.

I'm kind of gamifying my phone experience,

talking about how the older I get, I realize more and more that some hills are not worth

dying on. And talking about the universal life hack of I feel statements, they help so much

in all areas of life. This chat is really good because we get into the nitty gritty about how to be good to yourself

and others in middle age, which is where I'm at right now.

Anywho, we're going to give you this episode right now from the Forever 35 feed.

And if you like what you heard here, you should follow that podcast and listen to it for good stuff like this

every week. The show is called Forever 35 hosted by Elise and Dory. You can get it wherever you

get your podcast. With that, my chat with the Forever 35 hosts right now for y'all.

Hello and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Dory Shafrear.

And I'm Elise Hugh, and we are two friends who like to talk a lot

about serums. You know, along those lines, Elise, I, I have had such a, I've done such a full 180 on a

serum that I am like, I don't even know what to say.

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