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The New Yorker Radio Hour

For Journalists, “Gaza Is Unprecedented,” and Deadly

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

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4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The president of the Committee to Protect Journalists discusses whether Israel is targeting Palestinian reporters, and looks at threats to the safety of journalists around the world.

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0:00.0

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and the New Yorker.

0:10.8

This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. Right now, the Gaza Strip is the deadliest place in the world for journalists.

0:17.0

At least 76 Palestinian journalists and media workers have been killed since Israel's air and ground campaign began.

0:25.0

And there's a real question whether some have been targeted deliberately because of their work.

0:30.0

That's very much up in the air.

0:32.0

Israel has also jailed 19 journalists since the war began.

0:37.4

The safety of the press is not just an issue in the Middle East, and it's not just an issue

0:41.5

in wartime.

0:43.2

Around the world, the old rules that respected the freedom of journalists to operate,

0:48.8

at least in theory, you're seeing more and more those rules being simply ignored, even here in the United States.

0:56.5

I spoke the other day with the CEO of the Committee to Protect Journalists, Jody Ginsburg.

1:01.4

She was formerly the Reuters Bureau Chief for the UK and Ireland.

1:05.0

And I know Jody pretty well because in the interest of transparency, I serve on the board of

1:09.8

CPJ and I care very deeply about this work.

1:15.0

As long as I've been involved with CPJ, every year seems to be worse,

1:21.0

particularly the last several years. What are the trends that are making it more and

1:26.6

more dangerous to be a journalist?

1:29.4

What we've seen over the past few years is a decline in democracy and democratic norms and values

1:37.4

worldwide which means journalists are now at risk in places where

1:41.8

traditionally they've been relatively safe.

1:46.1

So for example we've seen here in the US leaders including Donald Trump's mere journalist

1:51.7

as enemies of the people, fake news, that unleashes online

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