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Deconstructed

For Abortion Rights, Could Kentucky Be the Next Kansas?

Deconstructed

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🗓️ 4 November 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In August, Kansas voters overwhelmingly rejected a ballot measure that would have removed abortion rights from the state’s constitution. In a few days, voters in Kentucky will weigh in on a similar measure that will decide the future of abortion in that state. Jazmin Smith and Robert Kahne, co-hosts of the "My Old Kentucky" podcast, which covers Kentucky politics, join Ryan Grim to discuss how the vote is likely to unfold.


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0:00.0

In August, when Kansas voters went to the polls, surveys suggested that the state was on

0:07.6

the cusp of a major victory for opponents of abortion rights.

0:11.8

Instead, abortion rights won in a landslide, kicking off a wave of democratic enthusiasm

0:16.6

that perhaps Republicans had overreached.

0:19.2

For decades, abortion rights organizations had done everything they could to convince

0:23.2

democratic leaders that the issue was actually a winner for the party, that the country was

0:27.7

genuinely on their side on this question.

0:30.4

But the universal response from party leaders was always no.

0:33.8

It was a bad issue for Democrats because the Antis would get all stirred up and come

0:37.6

out in vote, and the pro side didn't care enough.

0:41.0

Prochoice leaders also told me they got the very real sense that party leaders felt

0:44.9

icky talking about abortion.

0:47.2

But after Kansas, it went zero to 60, with Democrats everywhere hammering the message relentlessly

0:53.4

to the exclusion of talking about inflation or public safety, the other issues that are

0:57.2

resonating with voters.

0:58.2

Now, for a brief moment, it looked like Democrats at least had a slim chance to hold

1:02.2

the House and codify Roe v Wade.

1:04.5

They're instead staring down significant losses in the House, and sources tell me that

1:08.1

Republicans are extremely confident they're going to win in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,

1:12.5

and hopeful they'll win in Nevada and New Hampshire even.

1:15.3

If they do, it puts Republicans within striking distance of 60 Senate seats after the 2024

1:20.8

election, particularly if Fed Chair Jerome Powell succeeds in producing a serious recession.

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