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and feeding me and the kids. Okay, well, now we, I've put the baby back to bed, or in this case, the five-year-old, and now we've actually called in

reinforcements. We realized that this was such a major conversation that we couldn't handle it without the full strength of the team here.

Voltron had to form. So we got Dave Martin on the Turned Out of Punk phone and he is here right now. Dave thank you for joining this

podcast.

Glad to be here.

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