Hello, this is the game podcast from The Times and I'm Natalie Sawyer.

Gregor Robertson is having a deserve few days off, but do not worry we have very

suitable replacements. I'm very delighted to say we have

Tom Roddy and Henry Winter joining us for this latest pod Tom and Henry

great to have you on board Henry what have you been up to and how have you found life under these unusual

circumstances?

Hi, now, hi Tom. Well, I've caught up on some sleep. I've met a family who's seen really nice.

I've spent my, I've spent the last 35 years on the road.

So I think they're the ones who wanting to get rid of me.

The kids are very much pushing project restart. I think it's just been,

my admiration for the people in the office at the times has just gone even more through the roof how they've managed to sort of juggle doing everything

coordinating with people all from their kitchen tables while homeschooling and

you know just just living with a lockdown but yeah it's quite a it's

been it's been a fascinating period I mean it's it's one of those good it kind of

shows the power of the times in a way in that I've had a lot of people come on and say we'd like to do pieces with the times because of the community schemes they're involved in or this is agents and players and managers as well. I'm not probably get it I'm sure

Tom's the same we probably get about three or four calls a day from people offering up

you know a chat with a player with themselves or coaches or clubs or whatever.

So I think it's been fascinating, but obviously, I mean, it's a complete shock to football,

a sobering up period with all the financial problems,

and also realization for football that it can't exist in a bubble,

and they're more significant important things out there.

And the people that we tend to put on a pedestal as sports

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