This is the Athletic Football Show's Football GM podcast.

Welcome everybody to the Football GM podcast. Mike Sando here along with the GM,

Randy Mueller. It's good to be together again, friend.

How you doing, Randy? Doing good, Michael. Hope you're doing good as well. Looking forward to chatting a little ball here as we start to enter the summertime swoon anyway. Oh, yeah. We'll get some post-draft reaction. We've got, you know, we'll talk through some of the other stuff going around in the league. But first, Randy, I mean, I think by far the biggest thing going on this week has to be Austin Rivers stirring it up talking about whether guys to go from the NBA to the NFL.

And I know Rivers couldn't hang with us on this football podcast, right? Randy, football is just, football podcasting is just too physical for guys like that, right, from the NBA, wouldn't you say? I always come back to this. I just wish, and I love the reaction. It got everybody's reaction, as you know, if you haven't seen the video, it went viral. And everybody's had a comment on it, whether it's Chris Long or James Jones or Charles Barkley. Everybody's chimed in on it.

But I always say this, when everybody thinks, Everybody's had a comment on it, whether it's Chris Long or James Jones or Charles Barclay,

everybody's chimed in on it.

But I always say this, when everybody thinks it sounds like a good idea, just have one of those

guys stand on the sidelines for a game and not watch from the stands or not watch from

upstairs, but actually be next to these collisions of these mammoth men and the amount

of physicality that's involved. And it just makes you shake your head when people like Austin say,

hey, there's 30 or 40 NFL or NBA guys that could play in the NFL. Now, I would say there

might be a handful, but there surely aren't 30. And the ones that

can are rare and few and far between. What's funny is, you know, it goes the other way, too. The

locker rooms in the NFL are filled with guys who think they could play in the NBA. And if you've

not been around NBA guys and understand what real length is, right? What it really means to not be able to get your shot off.

Because these guys in the NBA is like, there's long guys in the NFL, but it's not even close to the same thing.

Not to say that there couldn't be a couple guys who might, you know, be able to have been a great basketball player and could have pursued, you know,

a career, but much, much harder than you'd think to transfer into another game.

No doubt, but I'll give him this. I do think the greatest athletes, they are in the NBA.

Those guys athletically, just speaking of athletes, I think top all sports.

And so I'll give him credit for that. Talk about you. You mentioned the length, but I'm talking

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