Football and 4 powered by the Inside the Burns podcast. It is brought to you by the fanatic sports book at Ocean Casino Resort in Atlantic City. I'll be back there Monday. Yes, I will be at Ocean Casino on Monday for the final live show of the year. Football and 4 powered by the Inside the Burns podcast, which you can get on all podcasting platforms. Yesterday we had a fun little roundtable. We're going to do that again coming up in a little bit. Greg CoSell is going to rejoin us from the Inside the Tate podcast. And of course, you know him from the matchup show. Speaking of the matchup show, Zalpao will join us tonight around 510. And we're going to be checking in with Cooper DeGine and Reed Blanketship at 5 o'clock, plus Kevin Harlan, the voice of Super Bowl 60. Good man, I like Kevin. And right now, that is the voice of Adam Kaplan from the Inside of the Bird's podcast for today's football at four. In person, two days in a row, boys. Good to see you. Three days. Three days. I'm sorry. Yeah, you got to understand. This three-hour time difference is crushing. It is.

I know.

And it's, you know, it's year 25 of these for me.

It's now Meteor O.

I'm sorry for calling it radio row.

But it never changes, Mike. I know you guys have been to a bunch of them. I've seen you there. broadcasts you before.

So how's it been for you the week?

We just got done talking to Barry Sanders.

Evan Cullen was just on from on Sports Night,

one of our buddies there.

Of course, Barry was on. We had Nukobi Dean on earlier. Something that he's adamant that he wants to come back. I was going to say, do you see a scenario where he's able to come back? Eagles love him, but the thing is, have they not drafted Jehad Campbell, right? The first round, who they traded up for has to play. It's a crowded room. I know. In Scott, as I tell on our Patreon group, because they're like, you know, they're Kobe Deanites. You know, they're like, hey, is there any way? I said, guys, if they played a 43 front, absolutely they could make it, they could do this, make it work.

But they only play two linebackers.

They're a nickel team. They're only going to play two. They're not running it. They don't run an even front. They're running an odd front. You play two inside backers, as Vic would say, and that's it. It's just, you never say never.

I've learned with Howie.

I've learned my lesson.

Just when you think, Darry Slay's going to be cut five hours later to do an extension with him.

So I've learned my lesson. Just when you think Jerry Slay's going to be cut five hours later to do an extension with him. So I've learned my lesson. Don't say anything guaranteed with Howard. But he was very adamant. In fact, that he's saying. Like, he loves it here. And he thought that Kim Campbell and Bond could coexist. And, you know, I don't know how it all fits.

But we also asked him about Vig Fangio. Was he surprised to hear this about Fanjo? He said, no, because Fangio had made it clear that he would think about, he would leave if he wasn't enjoying doing it anymore. That's kind of interesting. That is he not enjoying, right? Is that not what he said? Yeah. It was basically like he was saying along the same lines of, you know,

if it was time, it was time.

And he would feel like if I'm not having fun doing this anymore,

I'll hang him up.

Yeah, and apparently, I think Jeff Mitt might have mentioned it,

...