We are almost literally just flushing our trash down this big toilet that used to be called the Gulf of Mexico.

Here's the beauty of it though, Chuck. Let's say people decided, I'm not going to eat that anymore.

I'll put my tomato sauce in my spaghetti or something like that instead of the meat sauce.

All I have instead of a chicken salad sandwich make my hummus. You still have to go some plants,

but the amount that you need is dramatically less than what you need if you're going to feed all the

feed grains to the animals to get the meat out. And so all of that acreage that I see in my

childhood home North Dakota, you wouldn't need anywhere near that acreage to grow food if people

ate the plants directly. Welcome to the Exam Room podcast brought to you by the Physicians Committee.

Hi, I am the Weight Loss Champion Chuck Carroll. Thank you so very much for giving the show a

listen or a view or a download wherever it is in the world that you are. We appreciate you raising

your health IQ with us. And this is episode 33 of season four, number 228 overall. And today we

are going to be continuing to broaden our health horizons and shifting from not just our own health,

but to the health of the environment. This is the second of our two Earth Day specials.

Now on the last episode I spoke with Dr. Martin Heller about the water footprint of your diet.

And today we're going to be talking about the carbon footprint. And for that I will be

joined by Dr. Neil Barnard. And we're going to be spending a good chunk of our time discussing

the impact that the beef industry specifically is having on the environment. The beef industry

is certainly one of if not the top offender. But you're also going to hear Dr. Barnard explain why

switching from beef to say chicken or fish still can't be considered a vote for the environment.

Because frankly, they each have their own set of climate crushing issues. And then also today we

are going to be revisiting another conversation that I had with Dr. Heller that was recorded last year.

And this was around the time that Burger King was putting out advertisements for what they called a

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