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What's up, everybody? Welcome back. Happy Monday to you. So glad that you're here. Thanks

for spending part of your day with me. I got a great interview for you today. A flow

heart is a guy that I met a couple of weeks ago when he out of the blue just sent me a

note and said, Hey, I saw some of your stuff. I'd love to chat with you about building

brands and business. And I did a podcast with him. And he and I just just hit it off. Like

right from the very beginning, we very aligned in the way that we think and in our focus

and kind of the way we view life. And, you know, he's got a really interesting background

and software development and in studying physics and spirituality and mindfulness. If

you prefer that term. And the more we kind of start talking about that, the more I realized,

you know what, we don't we don't talk about that enough on this show. We should be talking

about it a lot more because it's a huge part of your success in business. But I just

haven't done as much of it as I probably should. And so I invited him to come on the show

today and talk a little bit about it. And I think you're really, really going to like

it. And so by the way, one last thing, if you guys want to check him out, I'll put this

at the top of the show so you all don't forget it. Masters of ceremony. I want to make sure

I got it right. Masters of ceremony is the name of his podcast. So go and check that out.

Make sure you become a listener, a subscriber of his. And you're especially going to want

to do it after you hear the show. So here we go. Flow, man, welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me Jason. Amazing. Glad to be here. Yeah. I am, I'm genuinely excited

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