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Suspect

Five Shots in the Dark | Memory Palace | 1

Suspect

Wondery | Campside

True Crime, Chameleon, Arpana Jinaga, Over My Dead Body, Matthew Shaer, The Shrink Next Door, Exhibit C, Eric Benson

4.2 β€’ 6.6K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 17 July 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

On a misty August night in 1998, a young man named Kasey Schoen was shot in downtown Indianapolis. Now – 24 years later – attorney, Lara Bazelon, reopens the case and uncovers a botched investigation based almost entirely on the memories of two eyewitness testimonies. 

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0:00.0

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0:17.0

A long time ago I remember watching an episode of Oprah about eyewitness testimony

0:25.5

I actually haven't been able to find the episode in question online

0:28.6

This would have been like three decades ago when I was a kid home from school watching TV

0:34.3

It's entirely possible I imagine parts of it

0:37.2

But in my memory Oprah without telling anyone has this guy run on stage and snatch up a purse belonging to one of the panelists

0:44.8

And then afterwards Oprah asks everyone to identify the thief

0:49.5

But no one can

0:51.2

Each person Oprah asks they've got a different answer as to what the guy looked like

0:55.6

I don't remember how the show ended I probably went off and played some duck hunt

1:00.5

But it lodged in my head as I got older started working in journalism and writing about the criminal justice system

1:07.5

It would periodically pop back into my head a

1:11.1

Reminder of just how fallible the human eye and memory can be so wait

1:17.0

Let me just back up. Okay. Tell me when you first notice the truck

1:21.0

I

1:22.5

Probably like it was maybe a block and a half

1:26.2

North of there, but it was describing down Pennsylvania past where I was out of my

1:32.4

Do you think it stopped and then went around again?

1:35.8

Or do you think it just went by you went around and came back around?

1:39.5

The Oprah segment came to mind the first time I heard this tape which was recorded near Indianapolis in 2022

1:46.5

The details aren't really important not yet

1:49.5

For now all you need to know is that the first voice belongs to Lara Basilone. She's a law professor

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