FIRST THEY IGNORE YOU: part one—- the creation of the NHS
Reasons Revisited
Geoff Lloyd
4.8 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 22 November 2021
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
We're doing a little shimmy, into the past. In the first part of our mini-history series on how progressive victories were won, we're looking at the NHS. How did this complex institution, that's beloved in the UK and revered around the world, manage to even get off the ground? Who were the key players? How did they win over opposition (and why was some of that from doctors)? And what role did the crisis of world war play in shifting hearts and minds?
To help us unpick the past we're joined by historians and experts on policy Sally Sheard from the University of Liverpool and Nick Timmins, author of The Five Giants, A biography of the Welfare State, then to help understand where the NHS goes from here is Jennifer Dixon, Chief Executive of the Health Foundation.
Plus, find out about Ed's latest sartorial swimming accessory as we welcome him back to earth from planet Cop and spare a thought for Geoff as he very publicly misjudges his choice of outfit.
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| 0:00.0 | This is reasons to be cheerful with Ed Milliband and Jeff Lloyd. |
| 0:12.0 | Hello. |
| 0:13.0 | Hello, how are you? |
| 0:14.5 | I'm fine how are you. |
| 0:15.5 | I just feel like I've returned from Planet Cop. |
| 0:17.7 | Are you pining for that adjoining corridor that you described in such poetic detail last |
| 0:23.3 | week? |
| 0:24.3 | Maybe a little bit. |
| 0:25.3 | Is it like returning from space? |
| 0:27.4 | I know you hear astronauts talking about how not just physically, but mentally it takes |
| 0:31.8 | a bit of readjustment. |
| 0:33.6 | Is that how you feel post-cop? |
| 0:34.9 | I mean, yeah, Jeff Bezos and I were having this conversation the other day. |
| 0:38.5 | You said cop, space, said, what do you think? |
| 0:41.0 | Can I say, yeah, no, I think it's a bit like returning from the low body conference |
| 0:46.3 | but sort of slightly more souped up than that. |
| 0:50.5 | In a slightly irritating, head way, I've sort of been texting various people who were |
| 0:54.0 | there about, let's discuss the next steps. |
| 0:56.1 | And they're like, yeah, I'm taking a few days off. |
| 1:00.2 | Quite, eventually quite pointedly in certain cases. |
| 1:06.2 | Somebody sent me a nice message and I was like, you know, I said, I think we need a bit |
| 1:08.8 | of time off. |
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