The case did not slow down overnight.

In fact, it exploded.

We've got a brand new timeline, new forensic focused, and new law enforcement activity at the House.

Yet again, and tonight investigators are acknowledging just how much they're still trying to untangle in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie.

Where is she?

Is she alive?

Let's pray she is.

Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, St.S. Nation, welcome to Survive and Survivor. This is the global phenomenon that brings

you the very best guests in all of true crime. We have something like 50 countries represented

in our community, which is why it is no longer just a show. We're a podcast.

We're back tonight.

There was another press conference today.

Huge shout out.

And I'll bring him in right now to Detective Phil Ramos, retired Las Vegas homicide, three-time officer of the year, former undercover drug operative for the Las Vegas

Metropolitan PD.

You guys know, I like the fact that he drives a Harley, and he was here for the press

conference while I was en route in an aeroplane, but I've landed.

I apologize.

Anytime I'm traveling, I'm always discombobulated, so bear with me. Next up, a brand new first-time best guest. His name is Bernard Zappur, a retired 25-year veteran of the U.S. Department of Justice. He was an ATF special agent in charge. He's now a corporate security executive working with an AI company to

solve criminal cases. And we'll ask him a little bit about that. And he also teaches a bit at

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