coming up on this episode of The Round Table.

The terror and, you know, apoplexy with which the audacity of like CNN hosting Trump at a town

hall, it's like just the whole point is just like you can't look at it because anytime you

look at him, anytime you're allowed to sort of hear what he actually says, their whole sort of

narrative. I mean, there is that phenomenon, Ryan, the sort of like exploding cigar phenomenon

of everything they try to do, everything they love, you know, and then they get their

wish, their grubby little wish to like arrest him or put him in handcuffs or whatever,

it always reflects worse on them than on him. Yeah. No matter what, like, no matter how badly

you think about him, even if you're not a Trump ban, inevitably his enemies like look worse,

you know, if you if you hated Trump in extremists, it would still be the case that his enemies would

be the only people that looked worse than him to you. Like, if you really look at this thing,

head on.

Hello, and welcome once again to the round table, your weekly publishers and editors podcast

here at the American Mine. I'm your host, Spencer Klaven, features editor of the American mind and

associate editor of the Claremont review of books. I am joined by managing the editor's set

Baron, as well as publisher and president Ryan Williams. And we have a special guest. It's always

exciting when that happens. And it's a particular pleasure to welcome Hadley Arches onto the show.

Professor Arches is the Edward Nay professor of jurisprudence emeritus at Amherst College. Many of

our listeners will probably already know him or be familiar with his work, but just to quickly summarize

some of his many achievements. Arches was the main advocate and architect of the bill that became the

Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which will become relevant to our discussion here in just a

moment. And he's the founder and director of the James Wilson Institute on natural rights and the

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