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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

First-Generation Wealth Building and the Truth About Stablecoin Yields

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet Personal Finance

Investing, How To, Education, Business

4.3 • 895 Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Learn how first-generation wealth builders create financial freedom and what stablecoins could mean for your savings. How do you build wealth when you’re the first in your family to be able to do so? And can stablecoins really out-earn your savings account? Host Elizabeth Ayoola and Sean Pyles explore generational wealth-building and the myths and realities of stablecoins in a rapidly changing cryptocurrency environment. Joined by entrepreneurs and fiancés Ronne Brown and Courtney Hale, Elizabeth kicks off the first segment with a heartfelt look at how first-generation wealth builders are redefining what it means to be “rich.” Ronne and Courtney share their journeys from modest beginnings to financial independence, relaying how childhood lessons shaped their values, how they built multiple income streams through entrepreneurship, and the steps they’re taking to continue building generational wealth together. They discuss the power of investing early, using real estate and the stock market strategically, and protecting assets through estate planning and life insurance. Then, investing writer Sam Taube joins Sean and Elizabeth to break down the difference between Bitcoin and stablecoins — and whether high-yield stablecoins are too good to be true. They explore how the Genius Act changes crypto regulation, how yield-bearing stablecoins compare to high-yield savings accounts, and what risks investors should consider before diving in. They discuss how to find a balance between risk and reward in crypto-based savings options, how stablecoins actually earn yield, and why traditional banking products still offer peace of mind for the risk-averse. Best High-Yield Savings Accounts of November 2025 https://www.nerdwallet.com/banking/best/high-yield-online-savings-accounts  The Costs of Being Unbanked (and How to Minimize Them) https://www.nerdwallet.com/banking/studies/data-unbanked  Crypto staking: What it is, how it works, calculator https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/how-crypto-staking-works  Want us to review your budget? Fill out this form — completely anonymously if you want — and we might feature your budget in a future segment! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScK53yAufsc4v5UpghhVfxtk2MoyooHzlSIRBnRxUPl3hKBig/viewform?usp=header In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: financial independence, building generational wealth, multigenerational money mindset, family legacy planning, breaking the cycle of poverty, entrepreneurship strategies, business ownership, side hustles, wealth psychology, mindset shifts, money trauma, minority entrepreneurship, real estate investing, stock investing basics, portfolio diversification, passive income streams, estate strategy, life insurance for families, trust and wills, crypto investing, digital currency regulation, crypto yield risks, yield-bearing coins, decentralized finance, DeFi savings, crypto-backed savings accounts, tokenized assets, stablecoin interest rates, inflation hedge, risk management, safe investing, traditional bank safety, asset protection, long-term wealth growth, market volatility, risk versus reward, financial resilience, and balancing traditional and digital assets. To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast, where you send us your money questions, and we

0:04.9

answer them with the help of our genius nerds. I'm Elizabeth Ayola. Now, on this episode, we'll

0:11.4

be answering a listener's question about how to plan for retirement using accounts like IRA or 401Ks.

0:18.2

But first, we're bringing you part one of a two-part series about first-generation

0:24.6

wealth builders. Now, these are individuals or trailblazers, as I like to call them, who are

0:29.9

the first in their family to begin accumulating wealth. And that's something I'm personally on

0:34.5

the journey to doing right now. So I'm excited to have this conversation.

0:42.4

To kickstart this series, we have Ronnie Brown and Courtney Hale here. They are engaged entrepreneurs who are both first in their family to build wealth. Welcome.

0:46.9

Excited to be here. Thank you for having us. Of course, excited to chat with you all.

0:51.7

Now, it wouldn't be right if I didn't give you both a proper introduction.

0:55.6

So we'll start with Ronnie. She's the founder of Girl CEO, Herlistic, and the author of

1:00.3

From Mopping Floors to Making Millions on Instagram. Now, Ronnie turned minimum wage income into a seven-figure

1:07.9

salary within a few short years. She's also equipping women nationwide on how to

1:12.5

be the CEO in their business, in their lives, and in their homes. Now we have Courtney, on the other hand,

1:19.1

who is a former wealth manager turned full-time entrepreneur. And through a company called

1:24.2

Investing Uncomplicated, Courtney helps people to invest and create generational

1:28.8

wealth. He also has a business called Super Money Kids Co, which I think is awesome. And with this

1:34.8

business, he partners with schools and organizations nationwide to equip youth with financial literacy skills.

1:41.3

So y'all both have quite the resume there. Thank you so much. So I like to start with

1:47.5

an icebreaker just to kind of get the conversation started and learn a bit about both of you. So I'm going to

1:53.0

give you different ice breakers so that you don't have time to think about your answers, okay?

1:57.8

All right. So we're going to start with you, Ronnie. So when I say the word wealth,

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