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This week Donald Trump announced that his White House Council,

Don McGann, would leave his position in the fall.

But this was news to Don McGann.

According to press reports, Mr. McGann found out about his departure the same way the rest of us did on Twitter.

Trump took to Twitter the next day to deny that McGann's extensive cooperation with

Special Counsel Robert Mueller had anything to do with his decision because

commentators had suggested that Donald Trump had once again obstructed justice.

What implications does McGann's firing have for the Trump presidency?

Let's get on topic. Welcome to On Topic, a weekly in-depth look at a topic that helps us understand this week's news.

My name is Renato Mariati.

I'm a former federal prosecutor and a CNN legal analyst

and I'm joined by my friend Patty Vasquez,

a comedian and WG on radio host who will join us regularly on this

podcast. Thank you for having me. I have to tell you Renato that on my show we

have a game called Deadpool where listeners can bet on who's going to be the next

person fired or just leaves on their own accord.

I don't think anyone has ever chosen White House counsel.

Because nobody knew, I don't think most people even knew his name

before this. Yeah it's crazy he mattered to me somebody somebody's

closely followed the Mueller investigation Don McGann's name has come up quite a bit as

I think we'll talk about today

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