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Fired Federal Immigration Judges Speak Out

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News Commentary, News, Politics

4.2 • 727 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The Trump administration has fired dozens of immigration judges in California seemingly without cause and despite growing backlogs of cases. Judges who lost their jobs say these firings will impede due process for millions of immigrants facing deportation. This comes at a time when federal authorities want to deport millions of people as quickly as possible. We talk with two local immigration judges who have been terminated by the Trump administration about the changes they have seen in our immigration system and what it means for the rule of law in our country. Guests: Chloe Dillon, head of criminal immigration defense, San Mateo County Private Defender Program; former federal immigration judge terminated by the Trump administration Elisa Brasil, attorney, Landerholm Immigration; former federal immigration judge terminated by the Trump administration Tyche Hendricks, senior editor covering immigration, KQED Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman, reporter, KQED News Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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From KQED. Welcome to Forum. I'm Alexis Madrigal. Okay, it seems like the Trump administration

0:37.3

is beginning to move new immigration enforcement into our area.

0:41.5

From a variety of sources, it is Customs and Border Patrol agents, and they're going to be stationed on Coast Guard Island.

0:48.7

If you're not familiar with it, it's a little tiny island, technically in Alameda, but it's connected to the mainland by a small road that hits the Oakland Embarcadero, a little south of Lake Merritt, a little north of Jingletown in Fruitvale. When I heard about where the CBP agents were headed, it became clear that protesters would target that road leading on and off the island. And indeed, by seven o'clock this morning, there were protesters there. We're joined

1:10.9

first this morning by Azul Dahlstrom-Eckman, who is on the scene there. Asul, thanks so much

1:15.5

for joining us. Yeah, good morning, Alexis. What's the scene like there right now?

1:21.0

So right now, it's peaceful. There's about 100 people kind of walking in a perimeter around the

1:27.0

intersection.

1:28.7

People have actually moved their personal cars, and they're also blocking the road on all

1:33.3

three sides that lead to the island. People say they're worried about future encroachments

1:38.1

by federal agents. I will say this protest does have some of the whimsy that we've seen

1:43.9

in other cities.

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I see right now someone jumping rope in a Wonder Woman costume.

1:49.6

Any inflatables? Any frogs out there yet or not yet?

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No inflatables. I haven't seen any inflatables.

1:56.0

There were some serious things that you heard from protesters that happened this morning, yeah?

2:07.5

Yeah, so I got here at about 745 AM and since then it's been peaceful, but I heard from multiple eyewitnesses that there were violent clashes between federal agents and protesters

2:13.7

here. One eyewitness told me that a, when they were trying to block access of federal

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