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Fire Ecology (WILDFIRES & INDIGENOUS FIRE MANAGEMENT) Mega Encore with Gavin Jones & Amy Christianson (LA Fires Re-Release)

Ologies with Alie Ward

Alie Ward

Comedy, Science, Society & Culture

4.9 β€’ 23.8K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 157 minutes

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Summary

As wildfires burn across L.A. β€” and my neighborhood evacuates β€” we thought it would be a good time to encore these Fire Ecology episodes so I can literally catch my breath. First Dr. Gavin Jones brings the heat talking about what fire is, how hot it burns, fire trends, tinderboxes, lots and lots of forest fire flim-flam, tolerant wombats, Angelina Jolie Movies, cunning pine cones, thick bark, Indigenous fire stewardship and more. After the break, co-host of the podcast Good Fire Dr. Amy Christianson talks about how cultural burns and prescribed blazes can create healthy forests. She also discusses Indigenous history, collaborations between Western science & First Nations elders, Aboriginal thoughts on cultural burns, more flim-flam, evacuations, snowmelt, hunting strategies, land stewardship, happy trees, climate strategies, and the social science behind wildfire education. Also learning from Native wildfire fighters. Huge thanks to her and Matt Kristoff -- who also hosts the Your Forest Podcast -- for allowing us to use excerpts from their interview to launch Good Fire. Subscribe to both podcasts to get more ecological knowledge in your ears.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, hey, it's your cousin, 3,000 miles away.

0:03.4

Checking in to see if your house is on fire, Alley Ward, except in this case, I'm the cousin's cousin,

0:09.9

and everyone is texting me to ask if my house is on fire.

0:12.9

And it is covered in cinders, and it's raining down ashes, and we're about a mile or so

0:18.8

as the crow flies or as the embers drift from the evacuation line

0:23.8

of the wildfire that's raging in L.A. right now they eat in fire near Pasadena. And this week,

0:28.8

I've been in Las Vegas last few days on a business trip. And I've been like up all night feverishly

0:35.1

refreshing the watch duty app for updates on the fire spread. Meanwhile,

0:39.7

my husband Jarrett, your pod mother has been like packing up our passports and our birth certificates

0:45.1

and our baby who's a 12 year old dog and he's been straying with friends here and there until the

0:51.6

winds died down a little bit. But we're back home. And

0:54.5

most of our neighbors on our street have evacuated. The air is very heavy with smoke from like

1:00.8

a thousand or so homes a few miles away that were lost in Altadena. I haven't slept much at all the

1:06.0

last couple days. And the winds are picking back up tonight. And at press time, there's zero percent containment on

1:12.4

the nearby to us eaten fire. And then the Pacific Palisades fire is barely contained and it's

1:18.8

growing. And fires are starting and smoldering all over L.A. I have a nasty smoke headache. And so I'm

1:25.9

giving you this very relevant encore while I catch my

1:28.8

breath about how fires start, why they're getting worse, and how indigenous knowledge and

1:35.1

fire management differs from what we have going on right now. And then at the end,

1:39.4

there's a very relevant 2025 secret about something that has made me cry several times today, which is very

1:46.0

spooky. Okay, here we go. The CDC has a bunch of recommendations about dealing with the smoke,

1:51.2

which will link in the show notes for this episode. But in case you can't stay indoors,

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